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Old 09-07-2012, 01:02 PM   #16
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And I thought it was illegal to touch one single bolt on someone elses car outside of a shop if you aren't a licensed mechanic?
As long as you don't claim to be a license mechanic, there is no way that is true.

Unless of course my sarcasm meter has failed...then

I don't think the OP is trying to turn it into a business, more of a offering to help a friend out. But yea helping strangers out that can back stab you is something to be careful of. It's definitely a kind gesture, there aren't many ppl willing to help someone out unless there is something in it for them.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:32 PM   #17
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No I wasn't being sarcastic but I think it's if you're getting paid for it. I could be wrong. Anyways I think it's awesome the OP is offering his garage.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:47 PM   #18
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I will make anyone working with my tools/in my area aware (maybe sign something?) that I am not liable for injury or damage.

This summer I took a cross country trip from Los Angeles to Toronto. After my waterpump blew up in Iowa, I was fortunate enough to stumble upon a car show out front of an advanced auto parts store. Made my $800 repair (as per BMW's request) into a $0 dollar repair after the guys at the car show and the folks from the store put their efforts together not only to lend me their time, garage, and tools, but also a place to sleep, a dinner, and paid for the parts required. Me and my GF were left speechless, and it made me realize just how great some people can be. Now that I am back home, I am more then willing to help other people out. It is a hobby I enjoy doing, so why not?
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:57 PM   #19
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I will make anyone working with my tools/in my area aware (maybe sign something?) that I am not liable for injury or damage.

This summer I took a cross country trip from Los Angeles to Toronto. After my waterpump blew up in Iowa, I was fortunate enough to stumble upon a car show out front of an advanced auto parts store. Made my $800 repair (as per BMW's request) into a $0 dollar repair after the guys at the car show and the folks from the store put their efforts together not only to lend me their time, garage, and tools, but also a place to sleep, a dinner, and paid for the parts required. Me and my GF were left speechless, and it made me realize just how great some people can be. Now that I am back home, I am more then willing to help other people out. It is a hobby I enjoy doing, so why not?
Good for you bud .. dont let anyone change that about you but dont let them take advantage either (like leaving there car in your garage for over a day).

I met some nice Americans in Aruba that were nice enough to give us a free (special type) of battery for our camera while ours died and didnt hold a charge. The batteries usually go for about $50.

I usually help people out with there computer problems without charging an arm and a leg like best buy.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:11 PM   #20
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I agree with the generosity, and giving has its rewards. Unfortunately, I have doubts that everyone has the same belief.
Having a garage and a buddy over is one thing. Advertising a free self-help car clinic is another. I really don't want to see you get burned with some idiot who hurts himself.
If it's found that you are having a automotive garage in an area not zoned for it, you will have big trouble. Most private garages are not zoned, or insured for auto repair.

Not trying to be a downer, but I see big problems with this.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:41 PM   #21
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^^^ I agree. Wanna help some buds? even off the forum? sure

but a come one , come all type thing will only lead to problems.

and working on a car for money is not illegal(you dont have to be licensed)
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:11 PM   #22
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I agree with the generosity, and giving has its rewards. Unfortunately, I have doubts that everyone has the same belief.
Having a garage and a buddy over is one thing. Advertising a free self-help car clinic is another. I really don't want to see you get burned with some idiot who hurts himself.
If it's found that you are having a automotive garage in an area not zoned for it, you will have big trouble. Most private garages are not zoned, or insured for auto repair.

Not trying to be a downer, but I see big problems with this.
I appreciate the concern. I plan to use judgement on who I help and those I don't. There is a reason I am limiting my offer to the maxbimmer community and not a place like kijiji. There is a certain reputability that comes along with being a member here, at least to those members that have been here a while.

As long as I have people sign a waiver of liability and negligence then I should be ok. Maybe ill put my HD camera to use and have people waive liability on camera
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:29 PM   #23
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And I thought it was illegal to touch one single bolt on someone elses car outside of a shop if you aren't a licensed mechanic?
only if you make a business out of it. donations don't count. no receipts, no business. cash deal or no cash deal. there is quite the grey area here. :-)
obviously you are going to help those you know then have some complete stranger come over who knows nothing about cars. He said he'll help them to do the work not let them do it all and not do the work them. chances are that not many are going to swing by anyway. So there is no problem with this. It's not zoning issue either. He's not running a shop; he's working from his garage and enclosed. Nobody's business what he is using he garage for. Anyone decent won't cause trouble. and you can generally smell trouble before it starts. Good judgement, safety first, and a genuine sincerely attitude will reflect a happy place. Make sure you have insurance on the place though. Just in case, someone gets hurt. you can be held liable regardless of a waiver to relinquish responsibility. I'd look into this further to make sure you've crossed all your T's and dotted your I's. :-)
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:51 PM   #24
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Your heart is gold man, I really appreciate that.

You're taking shortcuts here to be generous, cover your ass. You are assuming "grey areas", there are none.
Making up a waiver for liability and negligence may not cover you when you are doing work that is uncertified, unregulated, unlicensed and unzoned, even if it is non-profit.

If I invite people to my house and they slip on my un-salted icy sidewalk, they can sue me, regardless of any waiver they signed. They cannot "waive" away whats my lawful responsibilities.

Please be careful.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:35 PM   #25
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This is truly awesome. I'm starting my final year in university and I wish I could swing by your house and help you working on your cars hopefully learn some of skills you have.(I don't have anything to work on my car for now)

I have an e30 but luckily it gave me no headache whatsoever for over a year, but there is no guarantee that it'd break down in the future. So..I think I have a tons of noobie questions for maintaining/improving my car.

Anyways, How do I get in contact with you? I live in north york so you should live close to me.

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u can also hit me up since I live in North york as well.
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latest addition 1 87 325is blk - parts.

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Old 09-07-2012, 10:35 PM   #27
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:09 AM   #28
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Pmed you my number feel free to text/call.
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:09 AM   #29
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I agree with the generosity, and giving has its rewards. Unfortunately, I have doubts that everyone has the same belief.
Having a garage and a buddy over is one thing. Advertising a free self-help car clinic is another. I really don't want to see you get burned with some idiot who hurts himself.
If it's found that you are having a automotive garage in an area not zoned for it, you will have big trouble. Most private garages are not zoned, or insured for auto repair.

Not trying to be a downer, but I see big problems with this.
That's funny because I bet in the two stories posted here about Americans helping people out, they didn't feel this "doubt". I have a similar story about an American that held a bumper for me, and offered me into his house, etc.

Unfortunately this "doubt" in many cases is a Canadian (or maybe Ontario only thing). We are more reserved and don't trust anyone. I wasn't brought up this way.. It is sad but that's how it is, and this is why in generally I like to interact with Americans more than Canadians.

Noid you seem like a guy that we need more of.. pm me your number, and i'd love to drop by in the weekends or whenever. i can see this really taking off in the winter.
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