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View Poll Results: Would You Recommend driving an E36 M3 in the winter?
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Yes I would if I had winter tires.
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62.67% |
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No I wouldn't even if I had winter tires.
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Your better off driving a winter beater.
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12-12-2010, 08:37 PM
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Stance is Gay.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ancaster
Posts: 3,310
Car: '06 325i
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I personally store my car. Just because as others have said, I have put way too much money and work into the car to see some salt ruin it. The suspension alone is worth $2500 and I'd hate to see that after a winter.
I just like my car enough to know that if it started rusting, I'd probably hate it lol. I like to have everything perfect, so to keep it that way, I can't winter the car
And on another note, I cannot stand working on a rusty car! No seized bolts or stripping to deal with!
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12-12-2010, 08:38 PM
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#17
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 4,335
Car: 91 318is,93 325is...
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Originally Posted by BMW Rated
Hey Blocked out take it easy. When I say it could be a collectible I don't mean in the literal sense like a 1929 Rolls Royce or something. It's up to the owner in their mind as to weather they feel it would be a collectible. That's what I meant by that. I'm not on a high horse at all. I know my car is old but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try to make it last for as long as I can. Side note my car is not a Canadian car and where I got it from they don't have snow and the individual I bought it from which was the only owner has never driven the car in snow since they owned it as it's never seen Canadian soil and where they live it doesn't snow at all.
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Unfortantly the shear number of e36 m3's when compaired to the say e30 m3's negate much chance of true collector status, or cult following. The e36 was a whole new car which introduced BMW to the modern styling which lives on today, it's new look was soooo sucsesful and the lineup of all e36's produced stagering production numbers, only special editions produced in small numbers can be concidered future collector cars. Enjoy your car and store it as you please, but why negate the joy of missing it when you need the comfort and handling of the car the most.
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12-12-2010, 08:53 PM
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#18
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ptbo
Posts: 210
Car: 318is ZX10R
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There is more than one reason I store a special (to me) car for the winter....
1) Keep the rust, wear, and assclowns away from it.
2) Keep the miles down.
3) Gives me a chance to aquire parts, research mods and plan repairs I may want to do.
4) Gives me a chance to drive something different.
5) I usually make money on a winter beater, (pays for motorcycle insurance).
6) I feel like a kid at Christmas when I can finally pull it out and cruise around again!!
A stored car doesn't have to be a collectors car, just something to cherish and look forward to in the spring.....
I feel bad for you guys that can't afford it, or dont have the space. You don't know what your missing.
Last edited by BSL; 12-12-2010 at 08:56 PM.
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12-12-2010, 09:35 PM
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TAKE IT TO THE TRACK
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 1,803
Car: F30, E30
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^^Too funny, I feel sorry for those that feel they have to store it to keep it nice. There are two basic types of car owners: those that take care of their car and those that don't. Whether you drive it through the winter or not, if you're the type of person that takes care of your car then it will always be nice. I don't believe in storing cars (ask any of my friends, one of my goals in life is to purchase a Ferrari and DD it throught the winters as well and put 1,000,000 km on it) I'm a driver, and enjoy the feel and performance of my car year round. A winter beater will not perform like your pride and joy, so you're paying extra to own a second car and not enjoy your pride year long, limiting yourself to just the 7 or 8 good weather months. Not for me. Sorry. But if you're the type of person to take care of your car as I am, if something breaks, I fix it asap, I wash my car 1-2 times/week through the winter months, I wax, and do everything I can to make sure it's in good shape. I get offers on it at least once a month, at lights, gas stations, etc... because of the shape its in..............Winter driven and all, with 313000km and counting at a rate of about 1200km/week.
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12-12-2010, 09:42 PM
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#20
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Burlington, ON
Posts: 3,631
Car: 2003 M3
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I drive mine all year round. Great winter car.
I would miss driving it too much.
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12-12-2010, 09:46 PM
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#21
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Tortures BMWs.
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Posts: 347
Car: 1997 BMW 328IS
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Negative camber
The e36 m3 sport package has a dramatic amount of camber on the rear. I've got a complete suspension setup from an m3 on my e36 and it has been aligned as per the m3 specs with about 2.5 degrees of negative camber on the rear. Depending on road conditions(icy) it feels like it looses grip left and right for a brief second as I'm driving. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is due to the excessive amount of camber. I never felt this at all last winter on non-m stock 15's with winters.
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12-12-2010, 09:56 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ptbo
Posts: 210
Car: 318is ZX10R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sparkybp
The e36 m3 sport package has a dramatic amount of camber on the rear. I've got a complete suspension setup from an m3 on my e36 and it has been aligned as per the m3 specs with about 2.5 degrees of negative camber on the rear. Depending on road conditions(icy) it feels like it looses grip left and right for a brief second as I'm driving. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is due to the excessive amount of camber. I never felt this at all last winter on non-m stock 15's with winters.
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Probably due to an excessive amount of tire tread on the snow...
skinny tires in winter FTW!
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12-12-2010, 10:00 PM
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#23
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TAKE IT TO THE TRACK
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 1,803
Car: F30, E30
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^^Yup, skinny tires for the winter, the skinniest possible!^^
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12-12-2010, 10:00 PM
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Vtec just kicked in
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TO
Posts: 2,394
Car: 99 S52
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dble trouble thats great you dont want to store your car. i guess if i had a junky e30 id feel the same way  :p
others want to store their car and they arent stupid for doing so. your junk heap ferrari wont make it through the winter either. it will put you in the poor house with maintenance costs though
At the end of the day do what you want to do and dont worry about what others are doing.
The m3 will be fine with winter rubber but if you can afford to have another car and want to keep your pride and joys mileage down and as rust free as possible. store it. no big deal.
Clean low mileage m3's will always fetch a bit more money than the rest of the line up. (obvious statement)
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12-12-2010, 10:04 PM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,881
Car: Z4MC
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I drive my mcoupe through winter with winters on.
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12-12-2010, 10:07 PM
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Stance is Gay.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ancaster
Posts: 3,310
Car: '06 325i
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SiR
dble trouble thats great you dont want to store your car. i guess if i had a junky e30 id feel the same way  :p 
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12-13-2010, 12:05 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Oshawa
Posts: 4,335
Car: 91 318is,93 325is...
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I don't get the whole keep the milage low thing. It really means nothing, rubber rots and metal rusts over time regardless of milage
maintance and good fluids is key in presurving a vehicle.
I have nothing wrong with storing a car, I stored my e30 last winter, and drove one of my e36's (stripped interior was to cold brrrr).
I think as long as you are enjoying what u drive do what ever you want, there is no right or wrong on this one
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12-13-2010, 12:16 AM
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The King.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Oakville
Posts: 7,375
Car: Silver 2004 BMW M3
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imo, if it's at stock height with winter tires, go for it. i drive mine with winters and its lowered....i do hear the snow and ice rubbing on the under body sometimes though. makes me want to get a cayenne.
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Mods: Dice Unit, EAS Angel Eyes, Painted Reflectors, CSL Diffuser, Smoked Corners, PSS10s, 15mm Front and 10mm Rear Spacers.
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12-13-2010, 01:34 AM
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Formerly Flav_cool
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,354
Car: '98 328is + '94 325i
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doogee
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^ I LoL'ed.
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12-13-2010, 01:36 AM
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Vtec just kicked in
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: TO
Posts: 2,394
Car: 99 S52
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Originally Posted by doogee
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