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Old 04-11-2013, 09:15 PM   #1
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e-test with swap

How do you guys pass e-test after a swap from m42 to m52 for example?
Do you change the car title with MTO from 4cyl to 6cyl?
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:28 PM   #2
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Just play dumb and have em run it as a 6cyl. Back in 07 I swapped a m50tu into a 91' 318i shell, went to CT and told them to run it as a 325i of the same year and they did, passed with flying colors. This past jan the rules have changed up so im not sure if that is still allowed.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:29 PM   #3
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http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment...8201.html#1999

You can get it e-tested as a hot rod which means basically all emissions equipment that should be on the motor must be present and working properly. i.e. no obd-1 swap on that m52, 4 o2 sensors, air pump and all that shit. Not sure how/if it would affect your insurance if you go that route though.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:03 PM   #4
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I've had an test done where they didn't even pop the hood. With non OBD cars, they'd hook it up to the RPM detector and go.. so you go likely just etest without saying anything, as long as you pass.

That said, the new test is a curb side idle test and 3K rpm rev test, no dyno. I don't know the new procedure.
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Old 04-14-2013, 04:21 PM   #5
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I tested my swap as a hot rod. Make sure the tech selects hot rod when prompted, though. The guys at CT might not know what to do.

If done correctly, you'll be tested under 1980 standards.
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:51 PM   #6
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Not anymore. Now the hot rod means they examine the motor and test the vehicle under the standards to which the motor was designed.

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Vehicle cannot legally operate if there are visible emissions for more than 15 seconds in any five-minute period (s. 3(1) and s.6)
For Drive Clean testing, the vehicle must meet or exceed what were the emissions standards of the original motor when all original emission control equipment was functioning (s. 4(2)). If there weren’t any standards established for the original motor, the vehicle is deemed to be a 1980 model. The standards listed for “1980 and earlier” model-year vehicles apply.
All emissions control equipment must be attached and functioning. Equipment refers to what came with the replacement motor or be equivalent to what would have come with that motor. (s. 4(2))
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/environment...OD_098201.html
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:05 PM   #7
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Right, that's if the swap was done after January 1, 1999. When I was testing my car, I tried to find the distinction between pre and post 1999. None of the shops I went to cared or knew what I was talking about. They're simply presented with a button titled "hot rod" and that's the end of it. Maybe I got lucky, I'm not sure. The link you posted hasn't changed since last year, so I don't think hot rod testing limitations have changed with the new regulations.

When I find the e-test slip, I'll post the (1980) limits I was tested at so you know what to look for.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:30 PM   #8
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So I guess if you have a car + motor that are both pre-1999, you could say the swap was done prior to '99 and you're off the hook, nice!

You can look up the limits in this PDF, it depends on the gross vehicle weight:

http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_080001.pdf

1980 standards are incredibly relaxed.
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Old 04-14-2013, 06:37 PM   #9
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Hmmm.. if you go in and say you have a motor swap in a car pre-99, but you have already tested in the past, wouldn't they figure that out?

Here's a comparsion of 1988 to 1980, lol.

1988 standard, 2875 lbs
68ppm HC
0.38% CO
789ppm NOx

1980 standard, 2875 lbs
332ppm HC
2.62% CO
3505ppm NOx
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:45 PM   #10
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Most places don't know about the 99 rule, so I don't know if I would bring it up.

Maybe state that it should be tested as a hot rod under 1980 limits and see if they know what you're taking about.
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