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Old 12-29-2004, 10:04 PM   #1
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E36 Torque Upgrade!



Hey Guys,

If anyone is interested, we finally have some info available
on our Aluminum LS1 V8, 6 speed conversion package for the e36 crowd.

To give you an idea, our lightly modified daily driver prototype is putting down 400 hp & 400lb/ft to the wheels. Over 300 lb/ft at 1700 rpm!
As our site indicates, production conversion packages will be shipping by spring.

Our site is by no means "finished", but at least we have it up for informational purposes. We have developed proprietary solutions for various technical challenges relative to this project and thus are not publishing a great deal of "images" of the proprietary conversion components. We will publish pictures of some many of the "production" components as they are completed. We'll also soon be posting some video clips, on our site forum, that we have of the car from a track test day.

We are building two additional pre-production based cars prior to shipping customer conversion packages. The other two preproduction cars should be on the road in Calgary sometime this spring and we will then be able to post various performance statistics and numbers. We are planning on entering one or two of the cars in either the Open Track Challenge or Ultimate Tuner Car Challenge in California in '05. Each car is being built to different engine spec's - from mild to wild.

The technical challenges to this hybid powertrain are fully resolved and the appropriate solutions well engineered. Check it out.
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Old 12-29-2004, 10:05 PM   #2
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shit that cool wat about the e30
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:14 PM   #3
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I am a big fan of this conversion and will seriously consider this depending on the price. If not, I will probably get the DASC supercharger
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:29 PM   #4
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well.. the order form lists a price of over $8000.00 and i don't know if I'm misunderstanding something, but I don't think that includes nearly everything you need.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:46 PM   #5
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Errrm, $8000? No engine?

Daaaaaaaamn, for a couple adapters, that's a lot of coin.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:42 AM   #6
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Keep in mind the LSx series engines are relatively easy & economical to modify to ridiculous power levels.
For the price of a S54 engine, you can get a forged N/A motor with over 500 RWHP/TRQ, and also get 30 mpg on the way to the track, with factory reliability.
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Old 12-30-2004, 11:08 AM   #7
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I know how cheap the LS series is to modify... It still elludes me as to how it can cost so much for so little...

For $8000 I expect to get everything BUT the engine... That includes the 6spd.

It didn't even cost me $8000 for a BRAND NEW 05 Cummins 6BT... And they're retardedly expensive usually...

You can pick up a used LS1 for less than HALF that...

I don't understand why BMW = $$$$... I fail to see how adapters for swapping an LS engine into a BMW is any different from swapping a Cummins into my Jeep, and it still cost way less than $8K for just the mounting hardware... or swapping a V10 in, or dropping an LS6 into a 32 Ford...

It's not like they're installing the engine/transmission and custom fabbing you a car specific driveshaft...
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:46 AM   #8
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If you think this is expensive....

Perhaps you have not read all the site information. Have you looked at the components list? We have not even posted everything included in the conversion as we do not intend to benefit others that are attempting to build similar packages.

This chassis came with 4 or 6 cylinder engines. The drivetrain conversion is not a "simple" matter by any stretch of the imagination. I find it humorous that the typical lingo used is to "drop" in the engine. Why don't you spend a weekend or two and give it a try.

If you can't even imagine the scope of the custom components, and the electronics. There is no ghetto' half baked solutions.
We are not going to show individual component pictures until we have production pieces in our hands.

If you are not interested in a well thought out and integrated package, you would not understand the pricing. Low volume fabricated components are by no means inexpensive to produce.

We ran out of time this year, but you will see and here much more proof of the performance and refinement of these conversions, as we will have three different iterations on the road this spring.
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:57 AM   #9
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I had a rather long post written up, and then decided it was a better idea to NOT slam you as you're the only real company who is producing a kit like this.

I will simply try to point one thing out:

It frightens me that you feel it would take five days to do this engine swap, as I spent 5 days fulling ripping my Jeep apart and installing an entire new drivetrain (which I built all the mountings for)... And that's not just an engine/transmission. The only things that weren't installed were the driveshafts as they were made by someone other than me (DSI). If I had them prior to install (lengths would've been flawed) I would have been finished and on the trail the day after.
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:44 AM   #10
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MAANNNN, that is a wild ride, those videos are the shit

When I come out west boy do I gotta see that in person, topfuelman PM'd ya!

Jeeps man wtf
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Old 12-31-2004, 06:51 PM   #11
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MAANNNN, that is a wild ride, those videos are the shit

When I come out west boy do I gotta see that in person, topfuelman PM'd ya!

Jeeps man wtf
I'll take you for a ride, on one condition, you wear a diaper. Sleep is the last thing you'll get. Scared to death is the first.
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Old 01-01-2005, 12:36 AM   #12
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LS6 Conversion for E30 and I'm all over it.

Must include 6-spd tranny!
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LS6 Conversion for E30 and I'm all over it.

Must include 6-spd tranny!
Now that would be a blast!
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LS6 Conversion for E30 and I'm all over it.

Must include 6-spd tranny!
Needs 318i badges on it though
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